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This is one of my more detailed math videos, but it’s really important for those that are kind of progressing in their strategy to get some more meat, sometimes in these videos. So this is a lot of math in this one.
That’s. Gon na benefit quite a few people, so please try to slog through it if you can, but I do promise a little bit later tonight I’ll, have more of a fun video coming up and the title of that video is gonna be Side discharge with that, let’s, get right into this week’s, video, which is all about DIY vs.
Pro pest control, and what is the cost? Hey? What’s up y & # 39? All I’m Allen: hey the lawn care nut thanks for coming back for yet another week, so today nothing to do with the lawns. I’m. Actually gonna.
Do my midsummer perimeter pest control, which is just an application. I do tube and around my house, lots of folks will do their own perimeter pest control because it’s, pretty simple and easy and effective, and you can get the exact same.
Active ingredients in the exact same products that professionals use to do at your own house and that’s, really what we’re gonna talk about mostly in today’s. Video is the pricing between the professional products and the DIY products available at your local big box store, and then we’re gonna look at some of the pros and cons that might come along with using different products or different spray methods, and Things like that now, one of the things we are going to do is we’re, going to break down the math and – and I know that some of you don’t like doing that, but but it’s important To kind of you know understand exactly what you’re getting and why you’re, getting it, and the formulation that you’re, getting it in, because a lot of these things they might give you a little bit of Sticker shock up front, but in the long run you can save money with them.
However, there are also advantages to buying small quantities at your local box store. So we’re gonna look at those things today and kind of explore and in that way, if you’re gonna be doing any kind of perimeter or home pest control, you’ll kind of understand what you’re looking for and how to do it now the products that I’m using in these videos, I’m, not saying that these are the very best that you can get either.
These are just ones I happen to have. There are lots of different ways to do perimeter, pest control in the products I’m using here or just the ones. I happen to have available to me here at my house.
So again, I want you to understand the idea here is just to arm you with the knowledge to break down the active ingredient and how much is going down what we call pounds on the ground so that you can make a decision, no matter what product you Choose to buy real quick.
I wanted to give you guys an update on the leaf spot. I’ll put in on the screen how long it’s been since I did my app, but you can see that I don’t really see any remnants or traces of it remaining it’s, pretty much all cleared up, so I can start so.
I can start mulching clippings again. Sometimes there’s, often some bad news and one thing I’ve started to see now the rain has really been kicking in the rainy season here and I can see that wild Bermuda has once again begun to invade.
This is my Palmetto st. Augustine grass installed fresh in October of last year. Now we’re in late July, and the wild Bermuda has already made its way back in there’s, nothing that I can do about this except just watch.
It invade fun, so the two products we’re gonna be looking at. This is what we’re gonna call our professional product. This is temperate FX and I did a full video on this last year. I’ll link in the description below to it.
If you want to see it and we got all the math that I did last year in last year’s. Lawn journal you can see there August fourth of 2018 is when we did that. So we & # 39. Ve got all the calculations already done here.
We will run over those in a minute, but that is going to be our professional product and then our homeowner product or a homeowner equivalent is going to be this bare advanced, complete insect killer.
Now I will say I think the formula may have changed on this product recently and so that’s. Why I picked up this concentrate here so not to get confused. We’re gonna save this to the end and the main we’re gonna look at here today, our temperate FX, and this here bear advance.
Let me show you why now, when you go to the store, or even when you’re, looking online, there’s, all kinds of marketing all over the outside of these packages, they & # 39. Ll have be all kind of buzzwords, and things like that that are trying to sell you the product.
But what really matters the most in any product that you buy for your lawn are the active ingredients and then how much or what concentration of the active ingredient is in the product that you’re buying.
So you’ll, see here that the active ingredients and I’ll. Take a screen shot. If I have two here are imidacloprid and site: Lutheran beta site, Lutheran’s, so that are the two ingredients. And then you can see here that the concentrations are 21 % imidacloprid and 10.
5 % Seif Lutheran. That’s, the most important thing to look at now. What’s interesting? Is you can go here to this product that I got at Home Depot and you’re gonna see the exact same things and it’s, always gonna be at the bottom of the label.
On these and again, this is all of this different marketing and what it kills and all these things. But what matters the most is this right here, so you can see here same thing: imidacloprid 0.72 %, bata Seif, Lutheran 0.
36 %. So right away – and I went ahead and just did a side by side here for you and my lawn journal, so you can see so the professional may do this see, understand it better. There we go so you can see here the professional formulation or the temperate 21 % imidacloprid 10.
5 % Seif Lutheran. The DIY point: seven two percent point: three six percent, so we can automatically see a very large difference now. What you’re gonna find, is we’re, going to put this math problem together? We’re gonna gather all available data, and we’re gonna start ticking off boxes, and once you have a certain amount of facts or data gathered, you can ask different if this, then that questions about that data – and you Can get some really good answers to your questions? I know that some of you will like the way I broke that down you engineering types definitely like to break it down that way.
Others of you that are more creative. Maybe you don’t, but I want you to understand that this is really fun. When you start getting certain amounts of knowledge and data, you can really play with the numbers to dial a strategy and perfectly for your situation, so that’s.
Why? The next piece of data that we’re gonna get is the actual cost for the product itself. So this product was $ 69. Now you can get it cheaper nowadays, but back when I did my original math that’s, what it was costing was $ 69.
So we’re just gonna go with that to keep things to keep things even and on par. For myself here, the math will still working again the idea here, isn’t for you to go by this chapter and verse. The idea is for you to understand the thinking behind this, so you could run this type of a situation on any product anywhere that you’re thinking about using.
So you can see 69 dollars up front sticker shock for a lot of people, especially when this one over here same active ingredients is only 15 dollars up front. So larger commitment, minimal investment, but we still don’t, have enough information to really make a decision on which one of these is going to be better for our budget or or better overall or anything.
We still need to gather a few more facts, and those two facts are kind of similar. The first one is is how big is the bottle, because we just looked at what we have to pay for it, but then what is the application rate? In other words, how much of that bottle do we have to use to cover a certain amount of space? And in this case, we’re gonna use 1,000 square feet, as I’ve told you guys before in lawn care, DIY lawn care.
We almost always talk in 1,000 square foot increments. There are exceptions to that. You’ll, also hear pros. They talk in acres, but for us we typically deal with smaller square footage. We are gonna talk in in terms of 1,000 square foot increments, even in a perimeter pest control situation.
We still want to talk in increments of a thousand okay, so let’s get into the next piece of the math, and this is gonna, be the fun part here so $ 69. We had to pay. How much did we get? We got. Eight point one two: fluid ounces or 240 milliliters.
You can see we just didn’t, get a like and just compare right. We did not get very much it’s like holy cow man. That’s, a lot for 69 bucks right. You can obviously see, though it’s, a much higher concentrated product, but I still don’t have enough information to know if it’s a good by yet.
What I need to know is the application rate, and the application rate here is point two seven ounces per thousand. I know I have to work gallon right there, two sleeve that out for now so 0.2, seven ounces per thousand.
Now that’s, also equal to eight milliliter, and so now. What I can do, then, is. I can understand that if I’ve got eight point, one two fluid ounces and I need point two: seven ounces per thousand.
That means that this bottle will cover thirty thousand square feet, so I’m gonna pay $ 69, and I’m gonna get thirty thousand square feet out of this bottle now Alan. How did you know that this is the rate? Well, that’s, because I read the label and I encourage all of you to read the label on every product.
You get it’ll answer, so many questions you have. If you have any apprehension about things it’ll help you to formulate the right questions to ask when you do it’ll help you with your searches and and other research.
So just read the label there’s. So much here, but you can see here now one of the things you can do with this product is: you can flex the rate that’s. One of the advantages here is: you can do different rates, but for me, outdoor perimeter, pest control.
You know just trying to keep out the millipedes centipedes. You know fleas ticks all that kind of stuff around the house here, millipedes, whatever roaches cuz, we’re here in Florida, is to keep all that stuff out.
I’m just gonna use this rate right here, which is 0.27 fluid ounces or eight milliliters per 1000 square feet that’s. The rate that I’m using now. Some of you might ask why the milliliters well that’s because they go ahead and give you a nice tip and pour here so you don’t need any measuring cup or anything you can just I’ll show You you just squeeze this up in here and you can pour out your eight milliliters right there, so that’s.
One of the reasons why translate to milliliters but either way now we have enough data to start looking and making some understanding of what we’re actually paying, and what we’re getting here for our money.
Now let’s. Go over to this side over here on the DIY side. Remember we only paid $ 15 for 32 ounces. So eight point one two ounces versus 32. You got a lot more here. Application rate on this one is six ounces per 1000 without going into the label on this, it’s, pretty easy to understand.
If it says right here again, you don’t have a ton of flexibility. It covers five thousand three hundred and thirty four square feet. So then, all I have to do is just take 32 ounces divided by five point three, and it tells me, then, that my app rate is six ounces per 1000 square feet and you don’t, have a lot of flexibility with that.
So now that we know our application rate or how else’s or milliliters or product, it takes to get down a good application on a thousand square feet. Now what we can do is understand what is the cost per thousand square feet, because that’s, really where things are gonna start to break down and start to make a little bit more sense, at least budget wise.
So now let’s. Do that math. I have to be careful. My hands get sweaty out here in the garage and it smears my penmanship so now. What we can do, then, is understand that if this temperate is gonna cover 30,000 square feet and it’s $ 69, then that means 69 divided by 30 is two dollars and thirty cents.
So this this product here to do perimeter, pest control, cost me two dollars and 30 cents per 1,000 square feet this product doing the same math I paid $ 15 for this, and I divide that by five point three: three: four, because that’s.
What it covers, five thousand three hundred thirty square feet: that’s, two dollars and eighty one cents, so you can see then already temperate is slightly cheaper by the thousand. Now you might ask why you’re doing perimeter pest? Why does that matter? Well, I & # 39.
Ll show you that and a little bit later is why the thousand square feet matters just so you can know how to do your application, but either way now we & # 39. Ve got enough information to know that we are actually a little bit cheaper already here now.
Next, I’m gonna show you a visual, because what we have to understand is once we boil all this down. Are we getting the same amount of active ingredient down to kill the pests right? Because that’s? Really? What matters is the amount of active ingredient, the pounds on the ground of the actual active ingredient that we’re using to treat the problem if one is lighter than the other that might make a difference right there.
So let’s. Do that let me first illustrate to you, though, the differences in the two products when it comes to concentrations. Okay, so the temperate takes eight milliliters per 1,000, so it’s. Just that little bit see that little container right there, that’s, eight milliliters! That’s.
All you need for a thousand square feet now you dilute that in water, of course, but that’s. All you need as opposed to this product. This is six ounces per thousand, so you can see, then a lot more is needed, and that goes back to the concentrations of active ingredient that we looked at.
This one is much lower. Oh point, three, six percent, sigh flue, Tharin and point seven, two percent imidacloprid. So you need all of that and again this gets mixed with water. In this case, it does it automatically for you, which is one of the advantages here no mixing, but you can just see it a lot more product that needs to go down as opposed to this one, which you just need that little tiny bit.
So now that you have all of this information now, the last thing you can look at is: am I going to get an on par, whichever one I choose? Am I going to get the same amount of active ingredient down? I’ve, already Ellis trated to you that one does take a lot more of the concentrate than the other, but are they on par when it comes down to literally where the rubber meets the road or where the chemical meets the ground? Are we the same? Let’s, take a look, and so this is where we go to literally pounds on the ground.
Now some of you will recognize that term. When I talk about fertilizers, we talk in the same terms, because these numbers right here stand for percentages. Eight one eight is eight percent nitrogen one percent phosphorus eight percent potassium same thing.
That is called the guaranteed analysis and it’s based in percentages. So what do we do? We talk about pounds on the ground with nitrogen. In this case, we’re, not talking about a fertilizer. We’re, actually talking about an insecticide in this case, but the percentages still matter what percentage of the product that we want in that case.
In that case, we want fertilizer. In this case, we want an insecticide, but we still want to know what are our pounds on the ground, because that’s, where we can do things evenly, because that’s, where we can see how things measure up.
So, in the case of this, the pro product, our application rate again, is 0.27 once’s per thousand so point two seven times the concentration of 0.2 one because it’s, a 21 % imidacloprid product. So you convert the percentage to decimals and it’s.
Point two seven times point two: one is point: zero: five, six, seven ounces per thousand the site; flue Tharin same thing, point two: seven times point one: zero: five, because it’s; a ten point: five percent Seif Lutheran product point; zero; two; eight! So that means that when you apply this, you’re, going to mix it all in water this and this, and that when you apply it, though, what you’re, actually getting per thousand, is point zero, five, six ounces of imidacloprid and Point: zero: two, eight four ounces of Seif Lutheran.
When we go over here then to the DIY product, we can do some of the same math. Remember: six ounces per thousand concentrations, much lower 0.72 %. Point three percent point: three: six percent, but remember we’re, putting a lot more down.
So here we go pounds on the ground, imidacloprid, 6 ounces times the point: zero: zero, seven! Two, because again we have to convert this percentage to decimals right. So you got to take two more decimal places over six times: point: zero: zero! Seven, two point: zero! Four: three point: three: six here times: six point: zero: two: two! So what do we got Pro product? Two point: zero, five, six and a point four three.
So in this case, this is going to have a higher concentration of imidacloprid at the rate that I’m using and then, when it comes to this, I flew Tharin 0.27. We got a point: zero. Two, eight four versus a point: zero, two two.
So, in this case, they’re fairly on par this one’s, slightly more concentrated, but not that much so now, when it comes to just these particular pieces of data, you can break it down. The pro product will cost you two dollars and 30 cents per thousand, and you’ll, get point zero; five, six, seven in bedico, prett and point zero.
Two eight four Schleif lutheran this product is slightly more expensive at two dollars and eighty one cents per per thousand as well as you do, get a lower concentration of imita clover it and about the same of the site lutheran.
So now you can make the decision if you wanted to just make it based on pounds on the ground and cost you’ve got enough information now to make an intelligent decision for your own strategy. Now there are some other considerations and i’ve, been alluding to those throughout this, because if you just do it solely based on cost and percentages, you go with the pro every time, but let’s.
Look at some of the other advantages or disadvantages of each one. Okay, so i just wrote a few of these down real, quick there’s, a lot of other ones that you can go through. Also, i just remind you. I do have a free email that I send out every single Tuesday, and these are the kind of things that we kind of go over sometimes is cost of DIY versus pro trying to shed light on things to help teach you the why, behind what we do, So you can make better decisions for yourself, so there’s, a link in the description below where you can get on that free email list.
Alright. So some of the considerations with the Pro we’ve, already talked about it’s cheaper by the thousand, and you do get more pounds on the ground because, with the application rate that we’re going with, you did Get a little bit more of the Hema to cooperate and slightly more of the slight Lutheran.
So not only is it cheaper, it is more pounds on the ground. However, the biggest thing here is flexibility in the application rate there’s, different ways to dial this up and down, as well as the technique.
You can spray this out of a hand out of a pump sprayer, which gives you a lot more flexibility than this, which can only really be used one way. The other thing is this can be used in Doran door again because of its flexibility, whereas this is for outdoor use.
Only. However, as far as the DIY goes, this is very easy to get locally it doesn’t cost as much upfront. You know this is a $ 69 investment. This is only a 15 dollar investment. Other thing is spray and throw away you know you don’t have to have any storage with this.
You have to store this, and, if you have young kids that you’re worried about getting into it or something like that, that could be something to think about. You have to lock this up in a cabinet whatever, with this, you spray it, and when you’re done, you literally throw it in the trash and along those same lines, you have no mixing here.
I do still recommend you, wear PPE and gloves and stuff like that, but you don’t have to actually do any mixing and you don’t have to invest in a sprayer with this. You do have to invest in some kind of a spray, or even if it’s, just a cheap $ 30 one or like the one you’ll, see I have this.
This doesn’t require that it’s, just get this and go okay. So now all it’s left to do is the spray and pray, and I’m gonna go ahead and use the concentrate in a backpack sprayer, because that is the way I prefer to do.
My perimeter pest I don’t like using the ready to spray formulation. I much prefer to use a hand, can a backpack. Now I have 2,500 square feet to spray around my house top and bottom and as I spray I’ll, give you some quick notes on how I calculated that as well as again, I did this video last year and I’ll.
Put a link there in the description where you can see everything in more detail about how I measured it out and that’ll. Show you why and how. I know that I have 2,500 square feet of surface to spray here: .
So some of you guys are gonna call me out on the fact that I’m using a ready to spray which is not really the best for perimeter. Pest control and you’re right. It’s not, but this product is definitely labeled for perimeter.
Pest control because you can see right here on lawns and along building foundations, treatment to soil, around structures, application to building foundations up to a maximum height of three feet. So they do allow this for perimeter pest, but you can’t go up into your eaves and again that goes back to some wall.
You’re talking about, however, I will say I did go ahead and look for the concentrate and I think they must have changed the formulation at least here in Florida, because now all I can find is beta site lutheran by itself and they’re, calling it carpenter ant and termite killer, but, like I mentioned to you, that’s, just marketing.
This will do a lot of other things, and this too is also labeled for perimeter. Pest control around foundations in buildings. So some of you that would call me out on the ready to spray formulation, you’re right.
This would be better, and this is more of a concentrate. However, I can’t, find it with the imidacloprid in it anymore. Only with the scythe Lutheran, so I figured I’d, run the map for you on that anyway, just with the scythe Lutheran just so those of you that care would be able to see.
So here we go DIY concentrate this is Seif Lutheran. Only this is the bio advance 2.5 %. I paid twenty dollars at Home Depot for this. It’s 40 ounces because of course it’s, 25 % more than the 32 ounce size huh thanks brilliant coverage 13333 square feet.
How did I get that because the app rate is three ounces per thousand? I read the label for that now. This does have flexibility in it because it’s a concentrate, but the label that is labeled for building foundations in perimeter.
Pest control is three ounces per thousand, so that means then that 40 ounces divided by three will cover thirteen thousand three hundred square feet: cost per thousand, then one dollar and fifty cents.
So this is cheaper, much cheaper, but remember it does not have the imita corporate in it. In this case, then we do three ounces times point zero to five because it’s. A two point: five percent product.
We’re, getting point: zero; seven, five ounces per thousand of the site; blue Tharin. Now that of note, because with these other products, our site flew Tharin was only point zero, two eight and point zero, two two, whereas with this concentrate here, you’re at point: zero, seven five! So you’re! You’re.
You’re a little over three times more concentrated on the site, with room with this product, which is maybe what they decided to do is if they just take the Emma to clover it out and up the amount of site Lutheran goes down.
Maybe they get the same control I don’t know, but that one thing they’re doing is labeling this for carpenter, ant and termites, even though it does control the rest. So I just wanted to throw that out.
There again run this map on any product. You get and understand. What are you getting? What does it look like? How does it shake out and be a more educated consumer? So there you go guys perimeter pest control, all the math, so you can make good choices and then showed you a little bit how to spray it too.
So this is one of those things that’s great for a DIY er, because you can get really good products. You can get really good results and you can save a lot of money doing it yourself, especially when you’re armed with the facts behind the numbers.
So with that, as always, I hope this video has been helpful to you a lot. Some more tips coming in the email, so don’t forget to subscribe there and with that I’m Allen. Haney lawn care net thanks for watching and I’ll, see you in the lawn